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		<title>By: Dan North</title>
		<link>http://drnorth.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/transformers-2-how-bad-can-it-be/#comment-1591</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Richard. Sorry you got bumped here against your will. Have a look around and see if you find anything you like - I don&#039;t usually spend my time denigrating films I don&#039;t like, especially when I haven&#039;t seen them, but I thought Transformers 2 was turning point for me when I would stop waiting to see if Michael Bay would turn into something interesting and just avoid his latest film. I was struck by how venomous the criticisms of the film were, so I wanted to reproduce them: it&#039;s often fun to read reviews of bad films, especially since Michael Bay will make an absolute fortune from the film anyway (i.e. it&#039;s a victimless crime!). But by all accounts, critics found something troubling about the film&#039;s form of &quot;lighthearted entertainment&quot;, in that it was predicated on noise and spectacle rather than wit and nuance. I didn&#039;t think 2012 was a great film, but there was plenty of knowing wit in the way it constructed its big loud action sequences and played with the conventions of the disaster movie genre. So I don&#039;t have a vendetta against films that aim at entertainment. Criticisms of Michael Bay, I suspect, come from several positions: 1) A suspicion that this kind of massive-scale production takes away resources and attention from more deserving and artistic cinema. It&#039;s difficult to run a varied programme of films in a multiplex when the screens have been reserved in advance for the tentpole releases of the season. 2) The stereotypical representations of ethnic minorities as supporting comic figures, and of women as aestheticised objects. Claiming that this is &quot;only entertainment&quot; just helps to mask the ways in which &quot;entertainment&quot; reinforces stereotypes that more thoughtful artists are working hard to deconstruct. 3) Two reasons is enough. I don&#039;t need a third option, and it&#039;s late I&#039;m trying to leave the office, sorry...

If you&#039;re suggesting, though, that films like this shouldn&#039;t be thought about, I&#039;d have to disagree. If they enter the cultural arena, they&#039;re up for grabs from whatever perspective people want to view them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Richard. Sorry you got bumped here against your will. Have a look around and see if you find anything you like &#8211; I don&#8217;t usually spend my time denigrating films I don&#8217;t like, especially when I haven&#8217;t seen them, but I thought Transformers 2 was turning point for me when I would stop waiting to see if Michael Bay would turn into something interesting and just avoid his latest film. I was struck by how venomous the criticisms of the film were, so I wanted to reproduce them: it&#8217;s often fun to read reviews of bad films, especially since Michael Bay will make an absolute fortune from the film anyway (i.e. it&#8217;s a victimless crime!). But by all accounts, critics found something troubling about the film&#8217;s form of &#8220;lighthearted entertainment&#8221;, in that it was predicated on noise and spectacle rather than wit and nuance. I didn&#8217;t think 2012 was a great film, but there was plenty of knowing wit in the way it constructed its big loud action sequences and played with the conventions of the disaster movie genre. So I don&#8217;t have a vendetta against films that aim at entertainment. Criticisms of Michael Bay, I suspect, come from several positions: 1) A suspicion that this kind of massive-scale production takes away resources and attention from more deserving and artistic cinema. It&#8217;s difficult to run a varied programme of films in a multiplex when the screens have been reserved in advance for the tentpole releases of the season. 2) The stereotypical representations of ethnic minorities as supporting comic figures, and of women as aestheticised objects. Claiming that this is &#8220;only entertainment&#8221; just helps to mask the ways in which &#8220;entertainment&#8221; reinforces stereotypes that more thoughtful artists are working hard to deconstruct. 3) Two reasons is enough. I don&#8217;t need a third option, and it&#8217;s late I&#8217;m trying to leave the office, sorry&#8230;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re suggesting, though, that films like this shouldn&#8217;t be thought about, I&#8217;d have to disagree. If they enter the cultural arena, they&#8217;re up for grabs from whatever perspective people want to view them.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didnt watch the film in the cinema, bought it on DVD...got bumped to this website from a link and cant believe what im reading.

When did light hearted cinema become so serious??

Why does every film that doesnt have some deep and hidden meaning all of a sudden become bad??

It is what it is, intense, fast paced and great special effects! If you wanted to see a life revealing deep and meaningful film why not watch something designed to be that?

For what it was, it was a good film. Good to sit down after coming home from a stressfull day and slapping something light-hearted and amusing on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnt watch the film in the cinema, bought it on DVD&#8230;got bumped to this website from a link and cant believe what im reading.</p>
<p>When did light hearted cinema become so serious??</p>
<p>Why does every film that doesnt have some deep and hidden meaning all of a sudden become bad??</p>
<p>It is what it is, intense, fast paced and great special effects! If you wanted to see a life revealing deep and meaningful film why not watch something designed to be that?</p>
<p>For what it was, it was a good film. Good to sit down after coming home from a stressfull day and slapping something light-hearted and amusing on.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan North</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I was just reviewing the Avatar trailer. It looks a bit like 1970s fantasy art to me. I guess the difference between Bay and Cameron is that, while Bay presents technology (military, commercial) as &quot;totally freakin&#039; awesome&quot;, Cameron still has that ambivalence towards machines. Of course, it&#039;s totally contradictory - he can&#039;t bring himself to wholeheartedly condemn the hubris that produced the Titanic&#039;s design flaws because he&#039;s so enamoured of its scale and surface detail. There are always corrupt forces using technology for &quot;evil&quot; ends, but he has such faith in the power of technology to do beautiful things. It looks like, with Avatar, he&#039;s gone the whole hog and pitched a sentimental battle between Earth&#039;s military forces and a bunch of forest dwelling alien tribes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was just reviewing the Avatar trailer. It looks a bit like 1970s fantasy art to me. I guess the difference between Bay and Cameron is that, while Bay presents technology (military, commercial) as &#8220;totally freakin&#8217; awesome&#8221;, Cameron still has that ambivalence towards machines. Of course, it&#8217;s totally contradictory &#8211; he can&#8217;t bring himself to wholeheartedly condemn the hubris that produced the Titanic&#8217;s design flaws because he&#8217;s so enamoured of its scale and surface detail. There are always corrupt forces using technology for &#8220;evil&#8221; ends, but he has such faith in the power of technology to do beautiful things. It looks like, with Avatar, he&#8217;s gone the whole hog and pitched a sentimental battle between Earth&#8217;s military forces and a bunch of forest dwelling alien tribes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yeah - it&#039;s called Avatar, innit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yeah &#8211; it&#8217;s called Avatar, innit?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Charlie Brooker described the first one as like being shat on by a dishwasher for two and a half hours, which is probably the best transformers soundbite I&#039;ve heard.

To date my experience of Michael Bay&#039;s directorial oeuvre amounts to watching half of Armageddon at a mate&#039;s house when I was 14, and ditching it to play footy or something in a then-rare act of exercise. I suppose he&#039;s done wonders for the physical fitness of burgeoning adolescent film geeks. 

There are perhaps limited comments one can make about his place in the cinematic apparatus. Mark Kermode often slags off the &quot;Bayification&quot; of cinema, and there&#039;s a sense in which treating his films as unique entities of themselves is already to miss the point - Bay (along with, in my view, James Cameron) is simply at the leading edge of machine-cinema, in which the total elevation of meticulously constructed spectacle necessarily represses narrative, semic/ideological content and what I&#039;d like to call &#039;formal dynamics&#039; (in the sense of the dynamic range of a sound recording). 

You can&#039;t &lt;i&gt;actually&lt;/i&gt; get rid of this stuff, however - all that happens is that what gets spliced in in different ways is the hegemonic forms/ideologemes. In Cameron, for example, the great advances in CGI represented by &lt;i&gt;Titanic&lt;/i&gt; ride on the most utterly typical doomed romance fable, following the exact same narrative rhythm, with the McGuffin/framing narrative (the divers&#039; search for the amulet) sewn up with the &lt;i&gt;technical&lt;/i&gt; logic of the film. The new 3d extravaganza whose name escapes me right now sounds very much of a piece. (His older work doesn&#039;t seem so bad...&lt;i&gt;Terminator 2&lt;/i&gt;, despite being an Arnie action extravaganza, has &#039;dynamic range&#039; and uses it to play with predestination and time travel with a little more sophistication than your average shotgun fest; and &lt;i&gt;Strange Days&lt;/i&gt;, which he scripted and produced, has a more complex relation to genre, though the ending is schmaltz personified.) For Bay, the result seems to be gun-porn, military-porn, and (in the case of Megan Fox) porn-porn.

I wouldn&#039;t want to say that this is necessarily &#039;better&#039; or &#039;worse&#039; than older forms of crass cinema (the chronological distance we have from those older forms actually makes it very difficult to judge - just as Linkin Park strikes us as qualitatively worse than Ratt, simply because we still have to put up with them!). But it certainly seems to be the animating spirit of blockbuster films now - an acute technological prometheanism which acts as the unlikely avatar for aesthetic reaction.

JT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Charlie Brooker described the first one as like being shat on by a dishwasher for two and a half hours, which is probably the best transformers soundbite I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
<p>To date my experience of Michael Bay&#8217;s directorial oeuvre amounts to watching half of Armageddon at a mate&#8217;s house when I was 14, and ditching it to play footy or something in a then-rare act of exercise. I suppose he&#8217;s done wonders for the physical fitness of burgeoning adolescent film geeks. </p>
<p>There are perhaps limited comments one can make about his place in the cinematic apparatus. Mark Kermode often slags off the &#8220;Bayification&#8221; of cinema, and there&#8217;s a sense in which treating his films as unique entities of themselves is already to miss the point &#8211; Bay (along with, in my view, James Cameron) is simply at the leading edge of machine-cinema, in which the total elevation of meticulously constructed spectacle necessarily represses narrative, semic/ideological content and what I&#8217;d like to call &#8216;formal dynamics&#8217; (in the sense of the dynamic range of a sound recording). </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t <i>actually</i> get rid of this stuff, however &#8211; all that happens is that what gets spliced in in different ways is the hegemonic forms/ideologemes. In Cameron, for example, the great advances in CGI represented by <i>Titanic</i> ride on the most utterly typical doomed romance fable, following the exact same narrative rhythm, with the McGuffin/framing narrative (the divers&#8217; search for the amulet) sewn up with the <i>technical</i> logic of the film. The new 3d extravaganza whose name escapes me right now sounds very much of a piece. (His older work doesn&#8217;t seem so bad&#8230;<i>Terminator 2</i>, despite being an Arnie action extravaganza, has &#8216;dynamic range&#8217; and uses it to play with predestination and time travel with a little more sophistication than your average shotgun fest; and <i>Strange Days</i>, which he scripted and produced, has a more complex relation to genre, though the ending is schmaltz personified.) For Bay, the result seems to be gun-porn, military-porn, and (in the case of Megan Fox) porn-porn.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to say that this is necessarily &#8216;better&#8217; or &#8216;worse&#8217; than older forms of crass cinema (the chronological distance we have from those older forms actually makes it very difficult to judge &#8211; just as Linkin Park strikes us as qualitatively worse than Ratt, simply because we still have to put up with them!). But it certainly seems to be the animating spirit of blockbuster films now &#8211; an acute technological prometheanism which acts as the unlikely avatar for aesthetic reaction.</p>
<p>JT</p>
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